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Narrow victory? 
11th-Nov-2008 09:18 am
Muhommad Caraciture
I like talk radio. I love it in fact. It really gets my neurons firing. I get to listen to maybe, at best 15 minutes cumulative (take out commercials) total each day during my commute to and from work.

Yesterday, on the Mark Levin Show, Mark Levin made an interesting statement about propaganda.

California's Proposition 8, a ban on samesex marriage, passed 52.3% to 47.7% This is called a narrow victory by Liberals.

Obama won the election 53% to 46% over McCain. This is called a landslide by the Liberals.

Leftist propaganda? Could be...


But let's dig a little deeper.

When looking for "obama election landslide" on my favorite search engine, I came up with lots of landslide references. However, the landslide refers to electoral college results. The results are: Obama/Biden 365, McCain/Palin 162.

According to a USAToday article, "Ed Rollins, who helped engineer Reagan's 1984 runaway, defines a landslide as "any time you get over 300 or 320 electoral votes." He thinks Obama is on track for more than 300." Based on Obama's win of 365 electoral votes, it was indeed a landslide and then some. But only in the electoral sense, not the popular one.

Even the very liberal UK Times refers to an electoral landslide, not a popular one.

Some may be tempted to throw up a map of states won and say "look at all the blue! It WAS a popular landslide!"

But not in "Joe Sixpack America's" world. When viewed county by county, the picture is VERY different. When using red for 70% or more Republican, blue for 70% or more Democrat, and shades of purple to indicate other amounts, you see that high population density centers are what got Obama to an electoral college landslide victory. The so-called middle-Americans didn't get what they want. It also goes to show that the United States is an overwhelmingly conservative (or at least right-of-center) nation.

But I digress; back to the Mark Levin article...

So what we have is not so much propaganda by The Left, but a lack of understanding of terminology by The Right. Mark Levin should have dug in deeper to the claims made by Rob. He supposedly follows the news better than I. It is surprising that this would slip by.

What does this mean? Is "The Great One" a lying propagandist for The Right? Not in my experience. But, it does show that NOTHING should be taken at face value regardless of who is making the claim. It looks like Mr. Levin took a statement at face value. That statement was wrong.
Comments 
11th-Nov-2008 06:15 pm (UTC)
Yeah, "landslide" is definitely dependent on the terminology used. Just like Bush's win was in no way a "mandate", the spread of the popular vote in this election was no landslide.

The thing that makes me call the passing of Prop 8 "narrow" victory is a comparison to the numbers the last time similar legislation came up. Maybe it's not accurate to call it "narrow"-- maybe it would be more accurate to say to say that the spread is "narrowing".
11th-Nov-2008 06:23 pm (UTC)
Actually, I never heard of Bush's victory being called a mandate. The first time I heard that term used to reference election results was in the 2006 midterm elections. The Democrat victory was VERY narrow across the board.
11th-Nov-2008 06:33 pm (UTC)
I recall hearing Bush and/or Cheney describe the 2004 election as a mandate. I took it as either a joke, or a self-serving interpenetration.

As for the 2008 election, I have to agree that the difference between the Prop 2008 vote and the general election vote spread says that each is about the same level of being definitive.

As to what it means... it means what it always means. Both sides will keep pushing as long as they have a foothold.
11th-Nov-2008 06:36 pm (UTC)
Again, I don't recall the term "mandate" being used. I do, however, recall the term "political capital" being used.

He never spent it.
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