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Clinton Campaign violates federal laws 
26th-Nov-2007 12:41 pm
Muhommad Caraciture
... again.

BBC News
Last Updated: Friday, 16 November 2007, 17:06 GMT
£1,145 bill for dinner with stars

Guess who is coming to dinner in Dublin?

None other than former US president Bill Clinton, who is mingling with a host of Ireland's elite at a fundraising bash on Saturday night.

The 1,600 euro (£1,145) a head dinner is in aid of his wife Hillary's presidential campaign fund - and the places have been much coveted. [...]


But this violates federal campaign finance laws.

From the Federal Election Commission:

The Prohibition

The Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) prohibits any foreign national from contributing, donating or spending funds in connection with any federal, state, or local election in the United States, either directly or indirectly. It is also unlawful to help foreign nationals violate that ban or to solicit, receive or accept contributions or donations from them. Persons who knowingly and willfully engage in these activities may be subject to fines and/or imprisonment.

They could go to jail for this (Federal Election Campaign Laws (pdf)):

Sec. 437g
   (D) Any person who knowingly and willfully commits a
 violation of section 320 (2 U.S.C. § 441f) involving an amount
 aggregating more than $10,000 during a calendar year shall
      (i) imprisoned for not more than 2 years if the
   amount is less than $25,000 (and subject to imprisonment
   under subparagraph (A) if the amount is $25,000
   or more);
      (ii) fined not less than 300 percent of the amount
   involved in the violation and not more than the greater
         (I) $50,000; or
         (II) 1,000 percent of the amount involved in
      the violation; or
      (iii) both imprisoned under clause (i) and fined
   under clause (ii).1

Do you think Hillary or Bill will receive any punishment? They don't call him "slick" for nothing.
26th-Nov-2007 08:30 pm (UTC)
Do you think Hillary or Bill will receive any punishment?

No, but I also think you'll see those funds go somewhere other than his wife's campaign.
26th-Nov-2007 08:35 pm (UTC)
Please, do elaborate...
26th-Nov-2007 08:42 pm (UTC)
There's not really much to say. If you want to look at it from a republican talking point stance, they will realize their error and slickly apply the cash to some other venture (such as the GHWBush-Clinton efforts, or some altruistic foundation they have their thumbs in). You can take the position that there may be some clever accounting going on, and that her campaign will benefit from these Irish pounds, but you'll have to follow the money pretty carefully.

On the other hand, if you are following Clinton talking points, it will be that the fund-raising was never for the campaign.

There is no way they will openly violate the law. No matter what you think of their ethics (I sense you are predisposed to be suspicious of them), they aren't that stupid to end their campaign this way.
26th-Nov-2007 09:16 pm (UTC)
Ah... but read the original BBC article again... it IS open violation of the law.

They will claim ignorance or, as Al Gore put it: "There is no controlling legal authority that says this was in violation of law."

The Clintons have a history of this sort of thing.

Edited at 2007-11-26 09:16 pm (UTC)
26th-Nov-2007 10:34 pm (UTC)
umm, as much as i agree that they broke the law in the technical sense, realize ont imrpotant fact, every president we have elected since ike has had foreign contributions, at least clinton did it with an allied european nation instead of bush getting millions funneled to him by known extreme right wing saudi elements (right wing bieng the same side as the ones we keep killing) as much as i hate the clintons i think we really gotta score this one as a shut the hell up thing for the gop, they broke that law too
27th-Nov-2007 05:30 pm (UTC)
Uh... you forget the recent past.

Remember the past.

Like a serial killer that has not been caught, the Clintons are getting more bold.

You made compelling claims against the other side. Post it. Ike? Show me that, too.

Are you saying it is okay to break US Federal Law if it is done with an ally? My point is that, regardless of Clinton involvement, this is a SERIOUS breech of law and dilutes the meaning and integrity of the US election process. The law needs to be enforced. Who better to make a poster child than Hilbillary?

Main cause of problem here? Career politicians.

Politics, I believe, should never have been allowed to become a career path. It should be a temporary civic duty. You run, get elected, do your bit FOR THE PEOPLE, then return to your private life.

Edited at 2007-11-27 05:31 pm (UTC)
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