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3rd-Oct-2006 02:32 pm
Muhommad Caraciture
Why doesn't the US? Why doesn't our government "get it"?

Background: On Wednesday, 27 September 2006, Georgian authorities detained four Russian military officers and 12 others on spying charges. Interior Ministry forces surrounded Russian military headquarters in Tbilisi to demand the handover of another Russian.

Clip from article: Russia refuses to drop sanctions against Georgia

The sanctions — a suspension of road, rail, air, maritime and postal links — took effect at midnight. Later this week, the Russian parliament was set to consider a bill that would allow the government to bar Georgians living in Russia from sending money home — another painful blow to the impoverished nation.

Russia's President Vladimir Putin has said that Georgians living in Russia send home an estimated US$1.5 billion (€1.2 billion) to US$2 billion (€1.6 billion) annually — an amount comparable to Georgia's state budget.

"One must not feed off Russia and insult it. The Georgian leadership must understand this," Lavrov told reporters in Moscow.

So Russia gets it... A country is leeching off them and they say "NO MORE!" and they place a full transportation embargo and then block the transfer of money to Georgia.

Why can't we do this for Mexico? They encourage their people to flout our laws, they insult our country, and have systemic government corruption. They don't even support our values.

4th-Oct-2006 12:27 am (UTC)
If we did that, there'd be noone to mow lawns, clean up restaurants and pick vegetables. Or any of the other myriad low paying jobs that we happily pawn off to those people and forget about how that avacado arrived in our fridge.

but the real reason is DC and mexico city have their hands entwined so deep into our pocketbooks, cutting one or the other off will mean serious economic damage to both sides.
4th-Oct-2006 03:02 am (UTC)
Anonymous coward
Time to cut the apron strings...

Mexico needs to learn to join the rest of the modern world. They have a rich and fascinating history, a people eager to succeed, and, if their poverty is no longer subsidized by the US, they can be a true world power.

Time for Mexico to grow up.
4th-Oct-2006 07:44 pm (UTC) - Oops...
That wuz me....
4th-Oct-2006 10:01 pm (UTC) - The Draft of WWII
Research the draft of WWII

When all the farmers went to war
the poor mexican farmers went into slave labor here
they starved to death
died of heat stroke
and worked their fingers to the bone
to keep food in our women's mouths.

The Vets came back from the War with new skills
and didn't want to work the fields

The mexicans stayed, and some went back home.

Why do you wish for the mexicans to continue to starve
and not have their families get medical attention?

My Uncle swam the Rio Grande
and achieved the American dream
He is famous in the Mexican community

And you, a christian, YOU scream that they
deserve not a penny from your greedy little dollar
So they can feed and house their wives and mothers
and children back home.

Remember this:

When you are starving and your children are starving
It is the mexicans you will turn to
to learn how to survive
in the Desert without air conditioning
or water
or food
or money

Have mercy on your fellow man, and he will treat you the same when t he time comes.
5th-Oct-2006 05:06 pm (UTC) - Re: The Draft of WWII
This is where you are wrong...

I am FOR the Mexicans. I like them. I really do. I want them to join the world elites. But as long as the US continues to subsidize opression of the impoverished by not FORCING the Mexican government to be held to account for the way it treates its people and has institutionalized corruption, then the Mexicans will always remain a class-based society run by a few very rich people that stand on the backs of the poor.

Just like you will eventually turn your children out of the house to let them be adults and full and productive members of society, we should be doing the same to Mexico.

Cut the apron strings. Let them discover their strength.

Just like your children will struggle initially, so would Mexico. Just like an alcoholic who no longer has a co-dependant/enabler to depend on, the alcoholic cleans himself up after a period of strife and self examination.

I am PRO IMMIGRATION... but through LEGAL means.
5th-Oct-2006 07:20 pm (UTC) - Re: The Draft of WWII
Dear Sir:
How can you force a corrupt government
That our corrupt government
has made more corrupt
To be honest?

Only the people
WE the people
the people of Mexico
can stand up and say


btw, are you aware that WWWIII has already begun?
5th-Oct-2006 09:23 pm (UTC) - Re: The Draft of WWII
And "we the people" can force the issue by making no provision for the support of criminals. Here, I define criminals as those breaking the laws and subverting the sovereignty of the US. If you enter the US "illegally", you are criminal.

The poor Mexicans that come over here to work need a reason to overcome their political inertia and take back their government. By not supporting unlawful behavior, we encourage them to fix their problems back home. As long as we act as an enabler for their government's corruption, they will always seek a workaround. The flow of US money that supports that corruption will continue.

WW3 began a long time ago. The first real evidence of it was in 1993 WTC attack. Where have you been?
6th-Oct-2006 10:08 pm (UTC) - Re: The Draft of WWII
So, when you are trying to get you and yours across the Canadian Border because all hell has broken loose here,
And Canada says you aren't allowed to come up there because they don't want no more stinking Americans, what will you do?
You will be the criminal then.
6th-Oct-2006 10:11 pm (UTC) - Re: The Draft of WWII
Anonymous coward
WWWIII began in 1986.
Ask the old DoD
I've been asleep, overmedicated or apathetic.
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