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14th-Jan-2011 01:18 pm
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In response to noxcat:

You claim that I am trying to shut down political discourse, and in fact nothing of the sort has occurred. I did not disable comments; I froze a thread. I saw that nothing more useful would be contributed to that line of discussion. New threads are not disabled, only further comments on that one SINGLE thread. Even reading your post, all you have done is restate your position, thus proving my point.

Another claim you make is that I don't like people disagreeing with me. If that were the case you and several others would have been dropped as a "friend" long long long ago. Alternatively, I have had many Liberal readers drop me as a friend. History, and the facts, once again, don't bear you out. I have let you comment and have the last word innumerable times in my blog. There was nothing arbitrary about me freezing that thread.

I have learned your comment pattern over time. You cannot abide not having the last word. You will will do everything possible to show you are "right" no matter what and in this medium of blogs, to you, that means having the last word. You cannot stand being told you are wrong and being shown why. When I post my opinion, I show the reference it is based upon. Rarely, have you ever countered any of my statements or opinions of mine with any references - you simply counter with opinion and conjecture. The thread was following that all too familiar pattern, again, as evidenced by your own post in your own blog. Nothing more useful was going to be contributed. There were no new threads started either, which means that no one else, not even you, was able to contribute anything useful to that discussion.

One thing I greatly object to is your arrogance in assuming that my blog is a forum for YOUR opinion:

"... What you have done, however, is show yourself unwilling to engage in a fundamental function of American society - open discourse on a political issue we disagree on. ..."


I have allowed open discourse and have allowed you to post your opinion and have countered it. Is that not the definition of discourse? But, you are now overstepping your bounds in presuming that my blog is for your discourse. What we have here is a typical Liberal mindset in that the only opinion that matters is yours. You are a Liberal zealot and nothing, not even the facts, will change your mind, yet I still have you listed as a "friend" and have not banned you. Once again that proves you wrong in saying that I am not open to alternative points of view. This is in contrast to those Liberals that dropped me. Who is the one that is contributing to political discourse? Why, that would be ME!

About me? I reserve the right to be incorrect and even flat out wrong. I invite people to prove it to me when I am. I can think of only one instance where you showed me where I was wrong. I recanted, and even left the correction posted for all to see.

My comments are not disabled nor have they been. I do, however, reserve the right to freeze a thread when it is clearly going nowhere.
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15th-Jan-2011 08:35 am (UTC)
You are wrong about me - there have been many times I have let you (and others_ have the last word because I realized it was unlikely to be a productive conversation due to the other person's unwillingness to give the opposing side a consideration. Just because you claim otherwise doesn't make it true. There have been many times I have not even said ONE thing because I knew the other person was willing to have a rational conversation. But I guess those don't count in your world view.

I don't bothU don't bother commenting about anything right wing nut jobs like Limbaugh, Beck, or Palin have to say because clearly they can't be rational (or avoid ad hominem attacks). I was willing to discuss with you, but since you see it as a situation of 'right and wrong', and not a discussion, I will no longer do so. There is no right and wrong in political positions. And seeing things that way is a disservice to all. It's part of why partisanship is so rampant.
15th-Jan-2011 05:46 pm (UTC)
... have let you (and others_ have the last word because I realized it was unlikely to be a productive conversation due to the other person's unwillingness to give the opposing side a consideration. Just because you claim otherwise doesn't make it true.


What makes it true is the evidence presented in this, my blog. It is open for any and all to confirm my claims about allowing you open discussion for themselves. They have only to read.

I don't bothU don't bother commenting about anything right wing nut jobs like Limbaugh, Beck, or Palin have to say because clearly they can't be rational (or avoid ad hominem attacks).


Your reply is couched in an ad hominem attack. Nice bit of hypocrisy you have there.

There is no right and wrong in political positions.


Then why bother discussing anything at all? If none of it matters, why do you so vigorously defend your political positions? Clearly, there is "right and wrong" in the political arena.

It's part of why partisanship is so rampant.


And thank you for your contribution to it.
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