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Health-scare bill 
8th-Aug-2009 09:37 am
The problem with the way our participatory government is currently run is that we assume that our "representatives" are representing us. We assume that they have read the bill and have our best interests in mind.

This is simply not the case.

Time and again, we push our representatives to vote on a bill that we have not ourselves read... nor have they. Healthcare reform? I admit we can do better. I am in TOTAL disagreement that MORE government is the answer. The government has destroyed EVERY private sector it has entered in to as a player. Look at what Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have done to the housing market. Look at what the government has done to education. In 1952, the US government seized control of the steel industry and ran it at a loss. The health care industry is being destroyed because the U.S. Government is a player in that industry, too, with Medicare and Medicaid, the major contributors (discounting TARP and Stimulus) to the budget deficit.

So what is in this bill you people desperate for a free medical ride want?

• Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!
• Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.
• Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.
• Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan.
• Page 124: No company can sue the government for price-fixing. No "judicial review" is permitted against the government monopoly. Put simply, private insurers will be crushed.
• Page 167: Any individual who doesnt' have acceptable healthcare (according to the government) will be taxed 2.5% of income.
• Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay for them).

The actual bill states, on page 58, discusses the real time access to financial information to determine financial responsibility. Well, that COULD be construed as what happens now when you visit the doctor as your copay is determined. However, it gets insidious on page 58. Section 1173A, Part a, Paragraph 2, subparagraph B, states that there is "no additions or constraints for electronic transactions". That is, they have FULL and UNFETTERED access to your financial data and bank accounts.

As far as the "rationing", you are limited to $5000 per year for an individual, and $10,000 per year for a family for "cost sharing". Basically, if you need a major operation, such as a kidney transplant, expect to have your bank accounts sucked dry or service refused under pages 58 and 59. Read it for yourself. It is on page 29.

Government health care is DEADLY.

Tell your "representative" to vote no.

For all you Koolaid drinkers that STILL refuse to believe the truth and hate me for showing it to you, you can now follow your East German Stasi roots and report me to the authorities as an enemy of the state. Because, you know "facts are stubborn things."

Report me here.
8th-Aug-2009 07:30 pm (UTC)
As you might guess, I am in favor of passing this terribly flawed bill. In my opinion it is showing a lot of deference to the biggest drinkers from the river of money flowing from us to the health and pharma industry... but in my mind, it is a start, which is better than the progressively deteriorating status quo.

On the other hand let me compliment you on your restraint in alluding to things like the NAZI party. Many people on your side of this are not using meaningful rhetoric.

9th-Aug-2009 06:03 pm (UTC)
I agree that the term Nazi is overused and applies connotations that are not really appropriate to the debate. However, I am appalled at the Dem's hypocrisy on that. Where was Pelosi's outrage when Dems compared Bush to Hitler? The accusations fly from both sides and are having the effect of desensitizing people to the true horrors perpetrated by the Nazis.

However, you say a terribly flawed bill is better than no bill. How so? Is it wise to move into a house, site unseen, knowing that it was built on a crumbling precipice? No thanks! My "house", that I am in now, may be a bit dilapidated and needs some work, but the foundation still appears to be solid. That gives me something to work with, even if I have to raze the house and start over.

I'd rather rebuild where I am than move to someplace completely different, built by notoriously unreliable contractors and on weak foundations.

Oddly enough, I don't count you among the Kool-aid drinkers. You seem, and if I recall your saying so correctly, to be more of a self-avowed Socialist. You are what you are through deliberate and informed choice. Why anyone would deliberately choose that path (pathology?) is beyond my comprehension.

The Socialist Utopian society you seek will not appear in the form you are hoping for. That, I can assure you. It is against Human nature.
9th-Aug-2009 12:29 pm (UTC)
Yes, there is a lot wrong with this bill. I don't think it's going to be perfect right out the box. But, it's something.

As far as all of the illegal people having access to health care...they have that now! So, I can't really see the flaw in that. As far as paying a third party to sign people up, someone has to do it, right? I mean, you can pick this bill apart as much as you want and find thousands of flaws with it, I have, too.

It is not going to be perfect. But at least they are trying to do something to make sure that people in this country, people who are here legally and who have paid into the system since they where 16, lived on the straight and narrow, done every thing they were supposed to and, say...lost their job through no fault of their own, people who have no health insurance, don't have to go without much needed medical care and medication simply because they 1) can't afford it and 2) don't qualify for any of the current programs out there.

There is no reason why people should die in this county every day simply because they can't afford basic medical care. There is no reason why we can't come up with a better plan. Maybe I'm biased because I don't have health insurance and don't qualify for any kind of assistance. I've worked hard all my life, paid my taxes, done every thing right, hell I'm a DISABLED VET, yet I don't qualify for any kind of assistance now that I'm sick and unable to work. You can't tell me there isn't a better way.
9th-Aug-2009 03:05 pm (UTC)
You help me make my point very clearly. You are a disabled vet. The VA should be handling you medical but they are not. The VA is, defacto, government medical care.... and you have NONE.

As I said in my post, there are things we can do a lot better with medical care in this country, but history shows time and again that the government is horribly inefficient and callus. Look at a modern (and horrific) example: the Tuskegee Study.

The Tuskegee Study was a government non-therapeutic study of syphilis in rural black populations in the 1930's. The promise of treatment was given but enough medicine to actually cure the infected population was not given so that the progression of the disease could be monitored. None of the people in the study were told this.

This is one of the problems with government health care. At any point is can cease to be treatment and make you a guinea pig. You'll have no option because the government is not about you having an option. It is about power. It is about control.

The problems that we have now with the economy and healthcare and education would not be here IF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT FOLLOWED THE U.S. CONSTITUTION!

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